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That would make sense if we were nationalizing the resource. But would there be any restriction upon selling the minerals extracted from the territory of Greenland on the world market? If not, it sounds like a way to use my tax dollars (buying Greenland) to benefit multinational mineral extraction firms. We do already have an example domestically where the oil industry is lobbying hard to get pipelines built. Most of the controversy over the pipelines has been about the enviro impact of pipelines... not much attention is paid to the reason for the pipelines — to get the oil to port so it can be exported and sold to foreign lands. If we were really all about energy security why not impose tariffs on foreign oil to encourage the health of the domestic resource? All the talk of China manipulating trade — OPEC has manipulated oil openly and brazenly for more than 40 years. I’m afraid our mineral extraction policies wouldn’t be any different. |
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Better yet, if the Greenland deal was to move forward, we all know aside from making fun of Trump now, it'll be a bi-partisan "what's' best" for the nation & applauded as a great strategic win. When CNN tells you to think that way or a Dem president makes it happen, you'll change your tune anyway.
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When you start understanding that America's hegemony is based largely upon strategic alliances and not being dictator of the world, you realize that "us vs everyone" is an impossible foreign policy. |
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If I was your neighbor and took your tools and just walked into your house daily without you knowing then I told you to stop, would I be a dictator? |
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For the minerals, we either don't have any at the moment or past parties have made it impossible for us to mine for them in the US. As that being the case, we need to have our own control of minerals are we will really be screwed by the world actors. Of course that is ok with you democrats considering we would not want any companies to have rights to mine them but it is ok for the chinese to mine them. |
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We "got most of the US" by hostile takeover. Let's not act like we rescued the Native Americans from evil dictators. |
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You don't get it. Oil that is drilled in the US doesn't become property of the US government. It is property of whatever company owns the well. They are then free to sell to whoever is going to create the largest profit. It has nothing to do with democrat or republican. It's called the free market. You seem to think you live in Venezuela. |
Natives did not own the land. Who did they steal the land from? In your mind humans have been alive for millions of years. Someone had to have it before the Indians.
regardless, you are moving the goal post. We got our land by buying it or those countries ceding it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...sus-bureau.jpg Are you saying you want us to use a hostile take over or is offering to buy a bad thing? What would really be the issue? I have yet to hear a concise negative besides companies would get to mine the material or we did hostile take overs 200 years ago. I don't follow the logic. |
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And you are taking the narrative of a few (from the George W. Bush presidency) and claiming it to be the entire democratic party. Let's do that with every crazy thing that came from a loony right-winger and then apply it universally to the entire GOP. |
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It's not a bad thing, it's just asinine. What would you say if the Canadians offered to buy Alaska? Or the Cubans offered to buy Florida? |
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The reason I say adversion is you guys always seem to argue that businesses and so on producing and selling is a negative. Well at least when companies from the US do it. Besides, the narrative was not just from the Bush era. Ralph just said it in one of these threads less than 2 weeks ago. |
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We can argue about when the human construct of ownership, however it is what is in place so those are the rules. Bitching about it is not changing it and I am not sure I want it changed. At the end of the day before ownership, the strongest simply killed the weaker and took it. Aka the Indian Tribes. Sure they did not own it, but you better have not been from the wrong tribe in the other tribes water or hunting grounds. |
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Ralph lives in New Zealand. Who knew that a person that lives in another country is the spokesman for the DNC. |
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As far as you being against what you do? I don't know. Most of the talking points against Trump's world policies are asinine. They are to help the US and American jobs and keeping strategic production in the US. Does not pay to have no means to product steel if a war breaks out. There are certain production that needs to stay in the US to keep us ready for a fight if needed. |
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So if Denmark offers to buy Maine would you be offended if the President said the idea was absurd? |
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Heck, if they promise to Chicago, Oakland, San Fran, LA and throw in Boston so we could get rid of the Patriots, I would send $5 their way just to take it all. |
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