Hey guys

Been watching this thread for a while, had an interesting thought........

Both the NSS and Surfgate look to be based around the idea of trim tabs mounted off the hull sides at the transom

Surf gate is very similar to a set of lenco/bennet trim tabs mounted vertically

The NSS is very similar theory to the ql trim tabs by Volvo penta, again mounted vertically

Trim tabs have been around for nearly as long as powerboats, is it all of a sudden possible to patent where you can and can't mount them?

Thoughts?

Anythings possible these days!

Wow, nexer saw the volvo QL system. Wonder how hard it'd be to intigrate a ql assembly to a wakeboat.

http://www.foreandaftmarine.com/VO-QL3841717.htm

Looks easy to add on...works like the nautique system. slides out.

That's cool as hell.. the only real difference seems to be that the NSS wraps around the corner so it intercepts the water on the bottom and side.

So you take the plate out of the QL, make one that matches the curve of your hull. Then mount it at an angle and you're done.

this will be an easy add on. even a manual slide that sticks our 2 inches then just slide it in when done. simple

you could use 4 gl's. 2 on each corner. probably just hook the 2 on each corner to come out at same time. See page 14 on this link.

great-water.com/store/PDF/manuals/Trim_Sys_%20install.pdf

I have heard that the lawsuits against correct craft will begin in two months. Their patent is pretty solid!

Time will tell. I am basing my statements of fluid dynamics and having a hand it writing patents. How do you define a patent being solid in your own words? Although we do live in a world where Apple was awarded a style patent on rounded corners, so perhaps relying on logic in the legal system is a stretch...

well, what will be really interesting, if they have a lawsuit, if they ask for a judge to order nautique to crease equipping their boats with NSS, pending the outcome>

What would be more interesting would be to see them take the million or so bucks they are going to spend fighting over the patent, and instead team up with each other, and use the money to improve the wakesurf technology even further. A million thrown into surf system r&d could put Malibu/Nautique miles ahead of anything else out there

First they have to catch up to the top surf boats.:D

What? MB?

Top surf boats? You mean Enzos right? Or X30?

I saw these at the boat show 10 days ago.

you so FUNNY!

Anyone heard anything further here?

I haven't really heard anything but I don't think there is. They are totally different in design and functionality that I don't think there can be one.

I really am interested in those volvo ql tabs...Not just for surfing but for keeping bow rise down and keeping the boat balanced if too many people are on one side while cruising... you think they create a lot more drag than a traditional tab? My intuition says they do but fluid dynamics isn't my expertise either...